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Jester Cap
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Posted - 2014.03.05 22:35:00 -
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Brutor Trash wrote:-----------------------
Dalikah wrote:
Just to reply to your latest post Rise:
The 40s reload timer:
Do you really feel like a 40s period of not being able to effectively defend yourself against tackle is not a deal-breaker, when ....... bla bla bla ......... and then look at RLML again and ask yourself if they really are/were too strong, or the other medium sized missile systems too weak.
#KNOW ;LEDGE
Got jumped by an 'Enjoy' with wrong ammo loaded? Dial 555-booo hooo tough on you!
Killed 2, but a 3rd showed up and need to reload? Dial 555-booo hooo tough on you!
Brought a knife to a gun fight. Dial 555-booo hooo tough on you!
RLML are fine just the way they are. Maybe iIncrease the clip by a little bit. Sure. But i love the fact that you have a (missile) weaponsystem that basically says. "Bro, you better take me out with your first punch or before my friends are here....or else your a$$ is gonna go bye bye".
Its a choice you can make, but dont have to. If you don't like it use a different weaponsystem. Guess what, there are others available and guess what else? They are all viable. EVE never had so many viable options. Some people cry and demand their old "One ship/weaponsystem to rule them all" back. Again, its a choice you can make. To cry and throw a fit demanding demanding demanding or adapting your playstyle.
So please stop complaining and demanding that RLML do what you want them to do and pick the weapon system that does.
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Posted - 2014.03.06 06:02:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:The poll is really not needed, the players have already expressed their dislike clearly and oh so loudly.
What is needed is a suggestion for rlml and rhml that CCP rise can see, is even more fun, and even more effective, without breaking the balance with other weapons.
I suggest that one option is that it becomes a dual function weapon, that can either operate as a standard light missile launcher with a normal reload time or as a rapid missile launcher front loading the damage, basically giving the players a choice in how to engage. Oh and reduce the fitting requirements, there's so little value in the function it really shouldn't nerf other ship capabilities. But read below first before deciding.
The real problem that we are skirting around, is that missiles are in desperate need of some love at the moment, and the old RLML was a great solution to this for cruisers.
I don't think anything he comes up with that doesn't match the power of the old ones is going to please anyone.
So Suggestion for CCP rise is to look beyond all the rage and frustration in these threads and on this one system, stop and look, at what would make this a good anti frigate weapon, forget the "fun" and gimmicks and make it just Good.
You might find that you have reached a solution, and then apply it to the other missiles.
No.
........ a dual function weapon .......
Let me explain to you the concept of a trade-off or a draw back. It basically assume a situation in which a gain on one side comes with a loss on the other. In case of RLML you trade burst dps for sustained dps.
In the past missiles have had much too few drawbacks and a way too wide engagement envelope. Some of it due to the hulls using missiles some due to the missile(launcher)s themselves.
As the old saying goes: "you can have it all, just not at the same time"
Other weapon systems trade dps for range and tracking or alpha dps for sustained dps.
As I said before. instead of demanding the RLML do what you want it to do, pick the weaponsystem that does what you want it to do and live with the drawbacks. If you feel that RLML need some fine-tuning like a slightly larger slip-size, that is one thing. But asking it to do everything at once such as sustained and burst dps at virtually all ranges with selectable damage type and immunity to ewar is just not very -lets say- beneficial to a rock, paper, scissor environment when rock beats both paper and scissor. You are making missiles not only op but all other launchers obsolete.
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Posted - 2014.03.07 00:36:00 -
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Brutor Trash wrote:LOL HOW 2 READ
Please enlighten us. How many Frigs of any type should a RLML Cerb be able to kill. This should be interesting.
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Posted - 2014.03.07 00:46:00 -
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Brutor Trash wrote:Jester Cap wrote:Brutor Trash wrote:LOL HOW 2 READ Please enlighten us. How many Frigs of any type should a RLML Cerb be able to kill. This should be interesting. LOL BECAUSE EVE IS THAT SIMPLE. YOUR 2 KILLS AND 26 LOSSES CANNOT HANDLE THAT ESSAY. THERE WILL BE NO DERAILING OF THIS THREAD. #RLML BRINGING BACK SOLO 2014 #BRINGING BACK RISE #REMEMBER THE BSB, REMEMBER YOUR ROOTS, REMEMBER THE ALAMO
I tell you what. Hit me up in game for a duell on this toon and i will show you all about what i can handle and what not.
You can bring your PvP toon alright. 
You argument is moot. ISK balance is a non-factor. RLML caracal and cerb is fine. You are not right just becasue you scream the loudest.
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Posted - 2014.03.07 02:06:00 -
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Brutor Trash wrote:because 200-300 mill cerb struggling to kill 2 inties with frig-killing weapon system is borderline. lol wtf.
You made it about ISK balance. Selective amnesia? |
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Posted - 2014.03.07 18:11:00 -
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Brutor Trash wrote:I DONT REALLY SEE THE IRONY IN IT. ITS TRUE, NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHINING IN THIS THREAD. I LIKE THE PART WHERE PEOPLE WITH 2 KILLS TRY TO TELL ME HOW A WEAPON SYSTEM WORKS AND ITS BALANCING. CONSIDERING, RLML WAS NEVER UNBALANCED TO BEGIN WITH. IT IS NOW THOUGH. SCROLLING UP IN THIS THREAD, ALL THESE PEOPLE TRYING TO TELL ME I WANT TO UNBALANCE THE WEAPON SYSTEM. IDIOTS. THEY ARE EITHER DOING THIS ON PURPOSE BECAUSE THEY FEAR THE RLML OR THE MORE INNOCENT REASON WHICH IS THEY ARE BELOW AVERAGE INTELLIGENCE. PEOPLE WITH BACKWARDS INTENTIONS, MAKING THEMSELVES LOOK LIKE THE GOOD GUYS AND FRAMING ME WHEN IN REALITY I AM THE ONE TRYING TO ACTUALLY BALANCE AND HELP CCP FIX THE GAME HERE.
If you would not hide behind your specifically for these posts created alt, i would show you how a weaponsystem works. But you are all talk. You hide behind your 2 week alt and scream like a little baby who is not getting enough candy.
All you have done so far is insult everyone who does not agree with you. RLML are balanced exatly the way they are. They are excellent in their role.
Good luck with nothing. But yeah i know, you are right and everyone else is wrong. Oh i forgot sorry. 70 of the 900 views feel the same as you. that is erm...well..... less than 10%. But you are right, most of the EVE community feels like you.
There is a word for that. Its called denial. |
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